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Aber warum trägte er die Krone seines stiefvater? Seine familie ist viel älter (aber die Kienmayer waren sehr reich...)Konstantin R. N. F. hat geschrieben:Die Helme des Vaters bzw. Großvaters seiner Frau waren helmgeziert, wenn ich nicht irre... falls das hilft...
Danke
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Vielen dank für diese interessante Dokumenten !
Ich weiss leider nichts mehr über diese Familie "mit Pranken".
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Vielen dank für diese interessante Dokumenten !
Ich weiss leider nichts mehr über diese Familie "mit Pranken".
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Hallo Frank,Frank Martinoff hat geschrieben:Hallo Matthieu,
ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass der Siegel
nicht zu der Familie Posch gehört
In deren Besitz "vielleicht" ...aber glaube nicht zur Familiengeschichte
Warum diese Hypothese?
Was bedeuten sie mit "Familiengeschichte?
Danke,
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Re: Krone und Banden
Dieses Siegel schreit nach "französischem" Ursprung,Matthieu hat geschrieben:
MP
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das Wappen der Posch ist aber mit einem Bär (mit oder ohne Krug)
und die Krone, ist "eher" eine "spanische" Herzogskrone,
da Henri IV auch in Navarro zugange war,
ist es möglicherweise der "dritte" Hinweis auf "Henri IV"
oder die Region "Basque"
since "English" is the language of choice,
and to take it out of the PN mode...
so others can comment on it!!!
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No worries Matthieu,
but I can't see any bear in the seal, only a cooked chicken in a pot !
they spoke even French in Russia, he wouldn't change his Coat of Arms because of that !!!
Best wishes,
Frank
By the way, you can write in English
absolutely no problem!
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here you can read about Henry the IV and the
"Chicken in the Pot"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_IV_of_France
"""
Henry IV proved to be a man of vision and courage. Instead of waging costly wars to suppress opposing nobles, Henry simply paid them off. As king, he adopted policies and undertook projects to improve the lives of all subjects, which made him one of the country's most popular rulers ever.
Henry is said to have originated the oft repeated phrase, "a chicken in every pot". The context in which he is reported to have said this is:
“ Si Dieu me prête vie, je ferai qu’il n’y aura point de laboureur en mon royaume qui n’ait les moyens d’avoir le dimanche une poule dans son pot!
(If God keeps me, I will make sure that no peasant in my realm will lack the means to have a chicken in the pot on Sunday!)
”
This statement epitomizes the peace and relative prosperity Henry brought to France after decades of religious war and demonstrates how well he understood the plight of the French worker and peasant farmer. This real concern for the living conditions of the "lowly" population – who in the final analysis provided the economic basis on which the power of the king and the great nobles rested – was perhaps without parallel among the kings of France. It also made Henry extremely popular with the population.
Henry's forthright manner, physical courage, and military successes also contrasted dramatically with the sickly, effete languor of the last Valois kings, as evinced by his blunt assertion that he ruled with "weapon in hand and arse in the saddle" (on a le bras armé et le cul sur la selle). He was also a great philanderer, fathering many children by a number of mistresses.""""
and to take it out of the PN mode...
so others can comment on it!!!
________________________________________________
No worries Matthieu,
but I can't see any bear in the seal, only a cooked chicken in a pot !
they spoke even French in Russia, he wouldn't change his Coat of Arms because of that !!!
Best wishes,
Frank
By the way, you can write in English
absolutely no problem!
________________________________________________
here you can read about Henry the IV and the
"Chicken in the Pot"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_IV_of_France
"""
Henry IV proved to be a man of vision and courage. Instead of waging costly wars to suppress opposing nobles, Henry simply paid them off. As king, he adopted policies and undertook projects to improve the lives of all subjects, which made him one of the country's most popular rulers ever.
Henry is said to have originated the oft repeated phrase, "a chicken in every pot". The context in which he is reported to have said this is:
“ Si Dieu me prête vie, je ferai qu’il n’y aura point de laboureur en mon royaume qui n’ait les moyens d’avoir le dimanche une poule dans son pot!
(If God keeps me, I will make sure that no peasant in my realm will lack the means to have a chicken in the pot on Sunday!)
”
This statement epitomizes the peace and relative prosperity Henry brought to France after decades of religious war and demonstrates how well he understood the plight of the French worker and peasant farmer. This real concern for the living conditions of the "lowly" population – who in the final analysis provided the economic basis on which the power of the king and the great nobles rested – was perhaps without parallel among the kings of France. It also made Henry extremely popular with the population.
Henry's forthright manner, physical courage, and military successes also contrasted dramatically with the sickly, effete languor of the last Valois kings, as evinced by his blunt assertion that he ruled with "weapon in hand and arse in the saddle" (on a le bras armé et le cul sur la selle). He was also a great philanderer, fathering many children by a number of mistresses.""""